1 00:00:21,830 --> 00:00:17,189 thank you 2 00:00:24,550 --> 00:00:21,840 i hope everybody had a as great a day as 3 00:00:25,349 --> 00:00:24,560 i did um it has been a tremendous day 4 00:00:31,189 --> 00:00:25,359 for 5 00:00:33,590 --> 00:00:31,199 country um we were all treated to um 6 00:00:35,750 --> 00:00:33,600 what i have become to know what i have 7 00:00:37,510 --> 00:00:35,760 come to know as an incredible leader 8 00:00:38,549 --> 00:00:37,520 when we had the president here earlier 9 00:00:40,950 --> 00:00:38,559 today 10 00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:40,960 and um particularly for the nasa 11 00:00:45,270 --> 00:00:42,320 employees 12 00:00:47,590 --> 00:00:45,280 i will say thank you one more time for 13 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:47,600 uh for his efforts in coming and for his 14 00:00:50,950 --> 00:00:48,559 vision 15 00:00:52,709 --> 00:00:50,960 uh what we want to do i i managed to get 16 00:00:54,549 --> 00:00:52,719 around to each of the four groups for 17 00:00:56,869 --> 00:00:54,559 just a little bit of time to listen to 18 00:00:59,670 --> 00:00:56,879 what was going on and i know you had 19 00:01:01,670 --> 00:00:59,680 some vigorous discussion and uh and lots 20 00:01:03,670 --> 00:01:01,680 of information passed and what we want 21 00:01:05,590 --> 00:01:03,680 to do now is take about 22 00:01:07,510 --> 00:01:05,600 no more than 20 minutes okay i know 23 00:01:09,350 --> 00:01:07,520 everybody's had a long day and i'm going 24 00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:09,360 to ask each of the breakout group 25 00:01:14,230 --> 00:01:11,040 leaders to give us about a five-minute 26 00:01:15,830 --> 00:01:14,240 synopsis of what was discussed and what 27 00:01:18,710 --> 00:01:15,840 were the significant 28 00:01:19,590 --> 00:01:18,720 findings or issues in their in their 29 00:01:22,390 --> 00:01:19,600 group 30 00:01:23,990 --> 00:01:22,400 and uh and then i will remind you one 31 00:01:25,590 --> 00:01:24,000 more time for some of you who did well 32 00:01:27,109 --> 00:01:25,600 since everybody didn't get to do what i 33 00:01:28,550 --> 00:01:27,119 did everybody didn't get to go around to 34 00:01:31,510 --> 00:01:28,560 every group 35 00:01:33,429 --> 00:01:31,520 i am told that starting tomorrow i would 36 00:01:35,590 --> 00:01:33,439 say give it until noon 37 00:01:37,270 --> 00:01:35,600 if you go to nasa.gov then you'll be 38 00:01:40,469 --> 00:01:37,280 able to find a link for each of the four 39 00:01:44,870 --> 00:01:40,479 breakout groups and you can just play it 40 00:01:49,190 --> 00:01:46,950 let me go back to what i said when i was 41 00:01:50,389 --> 00:01:49,200 on the podium after before we started 42 00:01:53,109 --> 00:01:50,399 out 43 00:01:55,429 --> 00:01:53,119 this was a great day but as the 44 00:01:57,749 --> 00:01:55,439 president said this is a beginning 45 00:01:59,590 --> 00:01:57,759 uh unless we take what was done here 46 00:02:02,310 --> 00:01:59,600 today forward 47 00:02:05,109 --> 00:02:02,320 and do something with what we heard and 48 00:02:06,469 --> 00:02:05,119 make changes and and become 49 00:02:09,190 --> 00:02:06,479 innovative in the way that we do 50 00:02:11,029 --> 00:02:09,200 business and that's not just nasa 51 00:02:12,790 --> 00:02:11,039 that's every one of the organizations 52 00:02:13,830 --> 00:02:12,800 that's represented here it is going to 53 00:02:16,630 --> 00:02:13,840 be 54 00:02:19,990 --> 00:02:16,640 collaborative effort 55 00:02:21,510 --> 00:02:20,000 among nasa academia industry and and a 56 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:21,520 group that wasn't significantly 57 00:02:24,550 --> 00:02:23,200 represented here because i didn't think 58 00:02:26,710 --> 00:02:24,560 about it and that's our international 59 00:02:28,150 --> 00:02:26,720 partners i'm not sure how many people 60 00:02:30,070 --> 00:02:28,160 talked about internationals in their 61 00:02:32,710 --> 00:02:30,080 groups today i didn't because i was 62 00:02:34,390 --> 00:02:32,720 passing through i didn't hear a lot but 63 00:02:37,910 --> 00:02:34,400 the things that we want to do cannot be 64 00:02:39,830 --> 00:02:37,920 done without international partners 65 00:02:41,910 --> 00:02:39,840 senator nelson is here i know 66 00:02:43,990 --> 00:02:41,920 congresswoman sheila jackson lee was 67 00:02:46,630 --> 00:02:44,000 here and i think she may have have left 68 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:46,640 but senator nelson knows my message and 69 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:48,239 we are going to have to get help from 70 00:02:52,790 --> 00:02:50,480 congress in becoming a little bit more 71 00:02:54,470 --> 00:02:52,800 flexible about allowing us to involve 72 00:02:56,309 --> 00:02:54,480 international partners in a way that has 73 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:56,319 never been done before 74 00:03:02,949 --> 00:02:57,040 so 75 00:03:04,710 --> 00:03:02,959 whole nation has got to get involved in 76 00:03:07,110 --> 00:03:04,720 i've been really excited 77 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:07,120 leading up to this because you know i i 78 00:03:11,990 --> 00:03:09,200 don't read papers a lot 79 00:03:14,869 --> 00:03:12,000 but in traveling around the last week 80 00:03:16,869 --> 00:03:14,879 it is incredible being a space junkie 81 00:03:18,229 --> 00:03:16,879 when every day you pick up the paper and 82 00:03:21,190 --> 00:03:18,239 on the front page there's something 83 00:03:23,030 --> 00:03:21,200 about nasa uh and it's and it's 84 00:03:24,949 --> 00:03:23,040 these guys are right these guys are 85 00:03:26,710 --> 00:03:24,959 right these guys are right these guys 86 00:03:29,110 --> 00:03:26,720 are right what we are starting to do is 87 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:29,120 have the intellectual discussion 88 00:03:32,630 --> 00:03:30,720 around the nation that we probably 89 00:03:34,869 --> 00:03:32,640 should have had 90 00:03:40,309 --> 00:03:34,879 40 or 50 years ago 91 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:42,390 i really want to thank the college 92 00:03:46,149 --> 00:03:44,400 students who are here 93 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:46,159 i have had a chance to talk to a number 94 00:03:50,630 --> 00:03:48,640 of them uh i know you didn't have to do 95 00:03:52,550 --> 00:03:50,640 this you could have been out you know 96 00:03:54,550 --> 00:03:52,560 throwing a frisbee or 97 00:03:56,229 --> 00:03:54,560 down on the beach or doing something and 98 00:03:57,750 --> 00:03:56,239 you chose to come here and spend your 99 00:03:58,789 --> 00:03:57,760 time with us and i think that's really 100 00:04:01,350 --> 00:03:58,799 important 101 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:01,360 so without further ado i'm going to ask 102 00:04:06,309 --> 00:04:03,920 john holdren if he would start and john 103 00:04:08,390 --> 00:04:06,319 talk to us a little bit about your group 104 00:04:10,390 --> 00:04:08,400 well thank you charlie we had a terrific 105 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:10,400 group the focus was expanding our reach 106 00:04:15,350 --> 00:04:12,720 into the solar system 107 00:04:17,349 --> 00:04:15,360 the presentations were so uh rich and so 108 00:04:19,590 --> 00:04:17,359 informative i can't possibly do justice 109 00:04:21,749 --> 00:04:19,600 to them in the uh five minutes or less 110 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:21,759 that i've that i've got but i'll just 111 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:23,440 mention a few highlights of each we 112 00:04:27,510 --> 00:04:24,800 started uh 113 00:04:29,430 --> 00:04:27,520 hearing from ed crawley a professor of 114 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:29,440 arrow and astro at mit former chairman 115 00:04:32,230 --> 00:04:30,720 of that department and a member of the 116 00:04:33,670 --> 00:04:32,240 augustine 117 00:04:35,189 --> 00:04:33,680 committee 118 00:04:36,870 --> 00:04:35,199 he started by pointing out that what 119 00:04:40,070 --> 00:04:36,880 we're really talking about is a new 120 00:04:41,909 --> 00:04:40,080 exploration strategy a strategy is not 121 00:04:44,070 --> 00:04:41,919 just a destination it's not just a 122 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:44,080 particular way to get there it's a way 123 00:04:47,749 --> 00:04:45,919 to explore space 124 00:04:49,909 --> 00:04:47,759 and to think about how we're going to do 125 00:04:51,350 --> 00:04:49,919 it in the context of why we're doing it 126 00:04:52,870 --> 00:04:51,360 what we're trying to achieve and really 127 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:52,880 making 128 00:04:57,270 --> 00:04:55,040 our approach to it the combination of 129 00:04:58,550 --> 00:04:57,280 missions and capabilities match what 130 00:05:01,350 --> 00:04:58,560 we're trying to achieve and that 131 00:05:03,990 --> 00:05:01,360 includes of course inspiration of the 132 00:05:06,390 --> 00:05:04,000 next uh of the next generation 133 00:05:08,550 --> 00:05:06,400 uh he talked about the importance of 134 00:05:10,469 --> 00:05:08,560 having a strategy that is flexible that 135 00:05:12,150 --> 00:05:10,479 is enabled by capability 136 00:05:13,909 --> 00:05:12,160 and that is guided by discovery a 137 00:05:16,310 --> 00:05:13,919 strategy that evolves as you go along 138 00:05:17,990 --> 00:05:16,320 and it has many destinations many 139 00:05:20,390 --> 00:05:18,000 specific accomplishments and 140 00:05:22,870 --> 00:05:20,400 achievements milestones along the way 141 00:05:25,510 --> 00:05:22,880 that among other benefits permit us to 142 00:05:27,510 --> 00:05:25,520 learn as we go and also keep people 143 00:05:29,350 --> 00:05:27,520 engaged and inspired as they see this 144 00:05:31,270 --> 00:05:29,360 progress these various 145 00:05:33,430 --> 00:05:31,280 specific missions 146 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:33,440 we heard 147 00:05:38,790 --> 00:05:36,720 then from from dr scott hubbard 148 00:05:40,870 --> 00:05:38,800 first mars program director at nasa 149 00:05:42,790 --> 00:05:40,880 headquarters uh past director of the 150 00:05:43,749 --> 00:05:42,800 nasa ames research center 151 00:05:47,990 --> 00:05:43,759 who 152 00:05:49,270 --> 00:05:48,000 robotic and human exploration he pointed 153 00:05:52,310 --> 00:05:49,280 out that all 154 00:05:54,710 --> 00:05:52,320 space exploration is human exploration 155 00:05:56,870 --> 00:05:54,720 sometimes we go in person sometimes we 156 00:05:59,110 --> 00:05:56,880 send our emissaries 157 00:06:02,150 --> 00:05:59,120 which nonetheless we control we control 158 00:06:04,629 --> 00:06:02,160 them from afar or we control them 159 00:06:07,749 --> 00:06:04,639 from somewhat closer as from orbit 160 00:06:09,350 --> 00:06:07,759 around distant worlds and he pointed out 161 00:06:11,990 --> 00:06:09,360 that the way forward is really going to 162 00:06:13,990 --> 00:06:12,000 be a synthesis of robotic and human 163 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:14,000 missions exploiting the unique 164 00:06:18,870 --> 00:06:16,240 capabilities of each 165 00:06:20,390 --> 00:06:18,880 and the unique symbiosis 166 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:20,400 that we can derive 167 00:06:26,230 --> 00:06:23,440 from joining those capabilities in 168 00:06:27,510 --> 00:06:26,240 intelligent and innovative ways 169 00:06:29,430 --> 00:06:27,520 we heard 170 00:06:32,550 --> 00:06:29,440 as our third panelist from dr john 171 00:06:38,629 --> 00:06:35,830 john is uh popularly known as the uh 172 00:06:41,270 --> 00:06:38,639 hubble uh repairman 173 00:06:43,189 --> 00:06:41,280 he is a veteran of five space flights 174 00:06:44,469 --> 00:06:43,199 has a phd in physics from the university 175 00:06:45,990 --> 00:06:44,479 of chicago 176 00:06:48,469 --> 00:06:46,000 three of his missions were to service 177 00:06:51,830 --> 00:06:48,479 the hubble space telescope spent a total 178 00:06:53,990 --> 00:06:51,840 of 60 hours in extra vehicular activity 179 00:06:56,469 --> 00:06:54,000 one of them a single spacewalk of almost 180 00:06:57,350 --> 00:06:56,479 eight hours fixing the hubble 181 00:06:59,110 --> 00:06:57,360 and 182 00:07:01,749 --> 00:06:59,120 he had a number of interesting things to 183 00:07:03,350 --> 00:07:01,759 say about what we need the pieces we 184 00:07:05,749 --> 00:07:03,360 need to put together 185 00:07:08,230 --> 00:07:05,759 more economical access to low earth 186 00:07:10,870 --> 00:07:08,240 orbit the heavy lift capability we need 187 00:07:13,189 --> 00:07:10,880 to go farther and faster 188 00:07:15,110 --> 00:07:13,199 modular exploration architecture which 189 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:15,120 certainly is what we're talking about in 190 00:07:18,950 --> 00:07:16,880 the president's new vision 191 00:07:21,430 --> 00:07:18,960 and frequent and compelling missions 192 00:07:23,749 --> 00:07:21,440 again a theme that we had 193 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:23,759 that we had heard from from each of our 194 00:07:27,670 --> 00:07:25,680 other panelists but i should say i 195 00:07:29,510 --> 00:07:27,680 thought the most uh the most remarkable 196 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:29,520 thing he said he was talking about among 197 00:07:35,430 --> 00:07:32,560 the possible missions of visiting uh an 198 00:07:37,350 --> 00:07:35,440 asteroid and and showing that we could 199 00:07:39,029 --> 00:07:37,360 change its trajectory 200 00:07:41,270 --> 00:07:39,039 which would demonstrate once and for all 201 00:07:44,550 --> 00:07:41,280 that were smarter than the dinosaurs and 202 00:07:46,629 --> 00:07:44,560 could therefore avoid what they didn't 203 00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:46,639 er 204 00:07:57,830 --> 00:07:52,960 that we 205 00:07:59,510 --> 00:07:57,840 had some terrific comments at the end 206 00:08:01,110 --> 00:07:59,520 from some folks i called upon in the 207 00:08:02,790 --> 00:08:01,120 audience 208 00:08:04,869 --> 00:08:02,800 buzz aldrin sitting in the front row was 209 00:08:05,749 --> 00:08:04,879 irresistible to call on buzz and he had 210 00:08:07,350 --> 00:08:05,759 some 211 00:08:09,909 --> 00:08:07,360 further inspirational comments that 212 00:08:12,150 --> 00:08:09,919 demonstrated once again that that buzz 213 00:08:14,469 --> 00:08:12,160 although he has an incredible career to 214 00:08:16,629 --> 00:08:14,479 look back on is still looking forward 215 00:08:18,629 --> 00:08:16,639 and thinking about innovative ways to 216 00:08:21,510 --> 00:08:18,639 get to a range of destinations including 217 00:08:23,749 --> 00:08:21,520 mars and do interesting things there 218 00:08:26,230 --> 00:08:23,759 we heard from lori leshan the deputy 219 00:08:28,150 --> 00:08:26,240 nasa administrator for exploration who 220 00:08:29,830 --> 00:08:28,160 told us some very exciting things about 221 00:08:32,949 --> 00:08:29,840 where nasa was going to be going in the 222 00:08:34,389 --> 00:08:32,959 years ahead with a variety of kinds of 223 00:08:35,829 --> 00:08:34,399 of missions 224 00:08:40,550 --> 00:08:35,839 and 225 00:08:44,230 --> 00:08:40,560 i i called on bill nye the science guy 226 00:08:46,070 --> 00:08:44,240 who is an expert at uh at inspiring kids 227 00:08:48,389 --> 00:08:46,080 uh to talk about the potential for 228 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:48,399 inspiration uh in the sort of program 229 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:50,880 we're talking about and uh and he did a 230 00:08:54,790 --> 00:08:52,560 fabulous job i think we're going to 231 00:08:57,829 --> 00:08:54,800 enlist him full time 232 00:08:59,670 --> 00:08:57,839 to help us inspire kids with this with 233 00:09:02,710 --> 00:08:59,680 this program 234 00:09:04,949 --> 00:09:02,720 that's a quick survey 235 00:09:06,630 --> 00:09:04,959 thank you very much um 236 00:09:08,150 --> 00:09:06,640 i'm going to do something that has that 237 00:09:09,509 --> 00:09:08,160 i said i wouldn't do but i'm not going 238 00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:09,519 to tell you what it is until we get 239 00:09:13,509 --> 00:09:11,440 through all four so you can sit there 240 00:09:14,389 --> 00:09:13,519 and think what am i going to do 241 00:09:16,389 --> 00:09:14,399 uh 242 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:16,399 lori let me ask you if you would give 243 00:09:21,430 --> 00:09:18,480 about five minutes on your group 244 00:09:23,829 --> 00:09:21,440 thank you very much charlie 245 00:09:25,910 --> 00:09:23,839 the mind reels so we have diverse and 246 00:09:28,310 --> 00:09:25,920 important aspects uh discussed in my 247 00:09:31,269 --> 00:09:28,320 panel of harnessing space to expand 248 00:09:33,350 --> 00:09:31,279 economic opportunity and we too had had 249 00:09:36,870 --> 00:09:33,360 a great discussion really focused on how 250 00:09:37,670 --> 00:09:36,880 the plan has exp explicitly has the goal 251 00:09:42,070 --> 00:09:37,680 of 252 00:09:44,630 --> 00:09:42,080 american capabilities in space which 253 00:09:46,150 --> 00:09:44,640 will open up new opportunities for the 254 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:46,160 economy and how this is a basic 255 00:09:50,550 --> 00:09:48,240 underpinning of the plan 256 00:09:52,790 --> 00:09:50,560 in addition commercial procurement of 257 00:09:54,949 --> 00:09:52,800 space transportation services are to 258 00:09:56,949 --> 00:09:54,959 provide the incentives for improvement 259 00:09:59,110 --> 00:09:56,959 and commercial capabilities and that 260 00:10:01,269 --> 00:09:59,120 costs then will be reduced as 261 00:10:02,949 --> 00:10:01,279 capabilities increase and allowing for 262 00:10:04,470 --> 00:10:02,959 the development of a new private sector 263 00:10:06,550 --> 00:10:04,480 activities that employ those 264 00:10:09,269 --> 00:10:06,560 capabilities so we talked a lot about 265 00:10:11,829 --> 00:10:09,279 basics of the job programs in florida 266 00:10:14,470 --> 00:10:11,839 that the white house has announced the 267 00:10:16,710 --> 00:10:14,480 new task force john fernandez was there 268 00:10:18,710 --> 00:10:16,720 from the department of commerce to talk 269 00:10:20,790 --> 00:10:18,720 about this 120-day study that the 270 00:10:24,710 --> 00:10:20,800 president announced will be due on his 271 00:10:26,389 --> 00:10:24,720 desk uh on august 15th to to 272 00:10:28,870 --> 00:10:26,399 outline the economic development 273 00:10:30,710 --> 00:10:28,880 activities uh utilizing the 40 million 274 00:10:33,190 --> 00:10:30,720 dollars that we're going to invest in 275 00:10:47,269 --> 00:10:33,200 this area dale ketchum was one of our 276 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:49,190 how this 277 00:10:53,110 --> 00:10:51,360 president's plan does something that 278 00:10:55,750 --> 00:10:53,120 we've been wanting to do for a long time 279 00:10:57,590 --> 00:10:55,760 which is to develop that diversified 280 00:11:00,310 --> 00:10:57,600 business case for florida so it's 281 00:11:02,949 --> 00:11:00,320 broader than just a civil human space 282 00:11:04,630 --> 00:11:02,959 flight and he was part of the local 283 00:11:06,710 --> 00:11:04,640 group that met with the president and 284 00:11:08,310 --> 00:11:06,720 talked a little bit about 285 00:11:10,949 --> 00:11:08,320 really the engagement and knowledge that 286 00:11:14,470 --> 00:11:10,959 this president has on this plan and he 287 00:11:17,030 --> 00:11:14,480 his personal uh interest in seeing 288 00:11:20,069 --> 00:11:17,040 again space be that inspiration 289 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:20,079 to a generation we also had greg juniman 290 00:11:24,710 --> 00:11:22,720 who is the head of the 291 00:11:26,949 --> 00:11:24,720 international federation of professional 292 00:11:28,470 --> 00:11:26,959 and technical engineers union of the 293 00:11:30,389 --> 00:11:28,480 afl-cio 294 00:11:32,790 --> 00:11:30,399 and greg talked about a lot of the 295 00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:32,800 technologies that r d investment has and 296 00:11:38,470 --> 00:11:35,839 how that really equates to greater job 297 00:11:40,710 --> 00:11:38,480 creation he talked about the kinds of 298 00:11:42,710 --> 00:11:40,720 investments and benefits that come from 299 00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:42,720 our investment in the nation space 300 00:11:47,030 --> 00:11:44,880 program and how the plan going forward 301 00:11:49,269 --> 00:11:47,040 really will help us capitalize on 302 00:11:52,389 --> 00:11:49,279 capturing those those jobs and then our 303 00:11:54,870 --> 00:11:52,399 final panelist was uh dr mae jemison who 304 00:11:55,990 --> 00:11:54,880 you many of you probably know she is a 305 00:11:58,230 --> 00:11:56,000 vocal 306 00:12:00,870 --> 00:11:58,240 advocate for the important role that the 307 00:12:02,870 --> 00:12:00,880 space program plays in inspiring a 308 00:12:04,949 --> 00:12:02,880 future generation of scientists and 309 00:12:07,829 --> 00:12:04,959 engineers having flown on endeavor 310 00:12:10,150 --> 00:12:07,839 herself in 1992 and a former member of 311 00:12:11,750 --> 00:12:10,160 the peace corps the she's the founder of 312 00:12:13,430 --> 00:12:11,760 the jemison group and she talked about 313 00:12:15,269 --> 00:12:13,440 how the projects to develop new 314 00:12:17,509 --> 00:12:15,279 technologies as well as those 315 00:12:19,990 --> 00:12:17,519 technologies uh that come from the space 316 00:12:21,990 --> 00:12:20,000 program transfer to real people in the 317 00:12:23,670 --> 00:12:22,000 places where you can benefit from them 318 00:12:26,389 --> 00:12:23,680 the most really talked about the 319 00:12:28,150 --> 00:12:26,399 societal benefits that our investment in 320 00:12:30,790 --> 00:12:28,160 space 321 00:12:32,710 --> 00:12:30,800 engenders into not only our economy but 322 00:12:35,269 --> 00:12:32,720 our education system 323 00:12:38,629 --> 00:12:35,279 and then when we went around to our 324 00:12:41,030 --> 00:12:38,639 audience as well we heard from 325 00:12:42,790 --> 00:12:41,040 robert cabana bob cavana our head of the 326 00:12:45,829 --> 00:12:42,800 kennedy space center who talked about 327 00:12:48,470 --> 00:12:45,839 the 21st century launch complex 328 00:12:50,629 --> 00:12:48,480 investment that this plan 329 00:12:52,550 --> 00:12:50,639 has of over 2 billion 330 00:12:54,790 --> 00:12:52,560 over or 1.9 billion dollars i think over 331 00:12:57,590 --> 00:12:54,800 the next five years and how that is 332 00:12:59,670 --> 00:12:57,600 going to help leverage our investments 333 00:13:01,910 --> 00:12:59,680 here at the kennedy space center he was 334 00:13:05,350 --> 00:13:01,920 sitting right next to general kaler and 335 00:13:07,670 --> 00:13:05,360 they talked together about our 336 00:13:09,590 --> 00:13:07,680 really valuable cooperative efforts we 337 00:13:11,990 --> 00:13:09,600 have with uh nasa 338 00:13:14,629 --> 00:13:12,000 and the military here at uh cape 339 00:13:17,990 --> 00:13:14,639 canaveral and kennedy space center and 340 00:13:20,790 --> 00:13:18,000 uh general koehler spoke of the of how 341 00:13:22,790 --> 00:13:20,800 space has now woven into the fabric of 342 00:13:25,110 --> 00:13:22,800 today and that the 343 00:13:26,230 --> 00:13:25,120 industrial base issues 344 00:13:30,150 --> 00:13:26,240 that 345 00:13:33,030 --> 00:13:30,160 helping 346 00:13:35,590 --> 00:13:33,040 with being addressed by this budget 347 00:13:37,910 --> 00:13:35,600 esther dyson who has created been an 348 00:13:39,750 --> 00:13:37,920 investor and is the in a lot of 349 00:13:42,790 --> 00:13:39,760 technologies that have gone from the 350 00:13:44,550 --> 00:13:42,800 government to the private sector talked 351 00:13:46,870 --> 00:13:44,560 about how she sees 352 00:13:48,550 --> 00:13:46,880 so many similarities between what nasa 353 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:48,560 is going through and what happened with 354 00:13:52,550 --> 00:13:49,839 the internet 355 00:13:55,509 --> 00:13:52,560 a few years ago she is the 356 00:13:57,030 --> 00:13:55,519 chair of our technology and innovation 357 00:13:58,310 --> 00:13:57,040 subcommittee of the nasa advisory 358 00:14:00,230 --> 00:13:58,320 council right now so that was 359 00:14:02,870 --> 00:14:00,240 interesting and chris christensen who's 360 00:14:04,870 --> 00:14:02,880 head of the tory group outlined the 361 00:14:08,310 --> 00:14:04,880 study that they just finished on the 362 00:14:10,710 --> 00:14:08,320 investment of the commercial crew 363 00:14:12,389 --> 00:14:10,720 and cargo i believe part of the nasa 364 00:14:15,030 --> 00:14:12,399 plan going forward that six billion 365 00:14:17,509 --> 00:14:15,040 dollar investment and how their analysis 366 00:14:19,110 --> 00:14:17,519 was run that states that we develop 367 00:14:21,189 --> 00:14:19,120 about eight eleven thousand eight 368 00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:21,199 hundred jobs each year from that 369 00:14:25,509 --> 00:14:23,040 investment alone 370 00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:25,519 and then we closed with neil tyson who 371 00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:27,680 talked a lot and i'll brag he was with 372 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:29,279 some other panel but wanted to come to 373 00:14:33,910 --> 00:14:31,680 the space economy panel so he came and 374 00:14:36,710 --> 00:14:33,920 talked about i think as as you closed on 375 00:14:39,189 --> 00:14:36,720 sort of the frequent compelling missions 376 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:39,199 that you need to be able to drive the 377 00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:41,760 public interest and really the 378 00:14:46,230 --> 00:14:43,680 industries into these fields that will 379 00:14:48,629 --> 00:14:46,240 develop the innovation that that are are 380 00:14:51,110 --> 00:14:48,639 so important to our nation's economic 381 00:14:54,150 --> 00:14:51,120 growth i'm going to finish with a dale 382 00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:54,160 ketchum quote that he spoke of 383 00:14:58,870 --> 00:14:56,639 that space is just way too important to 384 00:15:01,670 --> 00:14:58,880 leave only to the government so that was 385 00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:01,680 the general theme of our panel thanks 386 00:15:07,990 --> 00:15:05,440 darlene great thanks very much lori um 387 00:15:10,949 --> 00:15:08,000 all right there mr norm 388 00:15:15,509 --> 00:15:10,959 all right uh charlie thank you very much 389 00:15:17,509 --> 00:15:15,519 we were the technology assembly and uh 390 00:15:19,030 --> 00:15:17,519 clearly uh an awfully important topic 391 00:15:20,550 --> 00:15:19,040 because it does provide the building 392 00:15:22,710 --> 00:15:20,560 blocks that'll let us do these wonderful 393 00:15:25,829 --> 00:15:22,720 things that we've been talking about 394 00:15:26,790 --> 00:15:25,839 uh the panel consisted 395 00:15:28,550 --> 00:15:26,800 of 396 00:15:30,069 --> 00:15:28,560 ed lew who is the program manager for 397 00:15:32,310 --> 00:15:30,079 advanced programs at google and of 398 00:15:35,030 --> 00:15:32,320 course a former astronaut 399 00:15:37,030 --> 00:15:35,040 bobby brown nasa's chief technologist 400 00:15:39,030 --> 00:15:37,040 and doug cook who is the associate 401 00:15:40,710 --> 00:15:39,040 administrator for exploration systems 402 00:15:41,749 --> 00:15:40,720 mission directorate 403 00:15:47,509 --> 00:15:41,759 i 404 00:15:51,829 --> 00:15:47,519 the 405 00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:51,839 senator nelson will remember when i went 406 00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:54,560 to see you when we were working on this 407 00:15:58,150 --> 00:15:56,800 project last summer i mentioned that one 408 00:16:00,310 --> 00:15:58,160 of the things that was causing us a 409 00:16:02,389 --> 00:16:00,320 great deal of difficulty was that the 410 00:16:03,749 --> 00:16:02,399 the technology cupboard was bare there 411 00:16:05,990 --> 00:16:03,759 just wasn't a lot that we had been 412 00:16:08,150 --> 00:16:06,000 developing in recent years and we found 413 00:16:10,150 --> 00:16:08,160 ourselves using technology from apollo 414 00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:10,160 and from shuttle and so on 415 00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:11,040 uh 416 00:16:15,749 --> 00:16:13,120 i'm going to summarize our discussion 417 00:16:18,710 --> 00:16:15,759 and five quick points it was a very rich 418 00:16:20,069 --> 00:16:18,720 discussion there's much more to be said 419 00:16:21,509 --> 00:16:20,079 the first point 420 00:16:23,189 --> 00:16:21,519 was that 421 00:16:25,189 --> 00:16:23,199 the the missions we're talking about 422 00:16:26,949 --> 00:16:25,199 particularly the mars mission can't be 423 00:16:29,110 --> 00:16:26,959 done without new technology and you can 424 00:16:31,430 --> 00:16:29,120 convince yourself of that pretty quickly 425 00:16:33,749 --> 00:16:31,440 if you calculate the number of uh 426 00:16:35,430 --> 00:16:33,759 shuttle equivalents or iss equivalents 427 00:16:39,430 --> 00:16:35,440 of mass so you have to have a low earth 428 00:16:40,389 --> 00:16:39,440 orbit to support a reasonable mars human 429 00:16:42,230 --> 00:16:40,399 landing 430 00:16:44,310 --> 00:16:42,240 and rather quickly you could see that 431 00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:44,320 without new technology 432 00:16:47,910 --> 00:16:46,320 one can't get there 433 00:16:49,110 --> 00:16:47,920 secondly that 434 00:16:52,069 --> 00:16:49,120 what we're talking about really is 435 00:16:55,110 --> 00:16:52,079 innovation and it was pointed out that 436 00:16:57,509 --> 00:16:55,120 innovation is generally best done 437 00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:57,519 uh at a rapid pace where there are a lot 438 00:17:00,550 --> 00:16:59,360 of opportunities for new things to be 439 00:17:01,749 --> 00:17:00,560 tried 440 00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:01,759 uh 441 00:17:05,909 --> 00:17:04,240 lots of smaller chunks of progress at a 442 00:17:07,669 --> 00:17:05,919 time 443 00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:07,679 thirdly 444 00:17:11,829 --> 00:17:09,600 the one lesson that sort of came through 445 00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:11,839 the discussion was don't try to do 446 00:17:15,350 --> 00:17:13,760 technology development concurrently with 447 00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:15,360 systems development 448 00:17:18,870 --> 00:17:16,720 we've tried that we all know what 449 00:17:20,949 --> 00:17:18,880 happens but that puts a lot of pressure 450 00:17:23,429 --> 00:17:20,959 on the technology development to get 451 00:17:24,789 --> 00:17:23,439 done so that we can start systems 452 00:17:26,390 --> 00:17:24,799 uh 453 00:17:27,590 --> 00:17:26,400 planning 454 00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:27,600 uh 455 00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:29,200 fourth and most interesting to me it 456 00:17:33,430 --> 00:17:31,120 occurred to me walking over here we 457 00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:33,440 heard about all this exciting technology 458 00:17:36,630 --> 00:17:35,200 i mean it really is 459 00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:36,640 but not a one of the questions of our 460 00:17:39,669 --> 00:17:38,240 audience had anything to do with that 461 00:17:42,230 --> 00:17:39,679 technology 462 00:17:44,950 --> 00:17:42,240 it all came was in the vein 463 00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:44,960 of nasa is a very fine 464 00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:47,440 very large very mature 465 00:17:51,669 --> 00:17:49,760 organization without a competitor 466 00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:51,679 and those of us in industry know that 467 00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:52,480 that's 468 00:17:58,630 --> 00:17:56,240 if you're trying to advance 469 00:18:00,630 --> 00:17:58,640 new thinking and new technology so the 470 00:18:03,110 --> 00:18:00,640 main discussion of our 471 00:18:04,870 --> 00:18:03,120 audience was whether or not nasa would 472 00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:04,880 be up to moving at the kind of a pace 473 00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:06,799 that one has to move at 474 00:18:10,150 --> 00:18:08,640 uh if we really are going to get this 475 00:18:12,070 --> 00:18:10,160 technology 476 00:18:13,669 --> 00:18:12,080 for example with the heavy lift launch 477 00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:13,679 vehicle 478 00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:15,600 there's only five years 479 00:18:18,870 --> 00:18:17,520 to get far enough to where we can make a 480 00:18:28,870 --> 00:18:18,880 a 481 00:18:31,350 --> 00:18:28,880 lost 482 00:18:33,510 --> 00:18:31,360 so a lot depends on it and finally nasa 483 00:18:36,070 --> 00:18:33,520 does have a technology plan has lots of 484 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:36,080 interesting ingredients 485 00:18:40,150 --> 00:18:37,840 and these are the kind of things that 486 00:18:42,549 --> 00:18:40,160 inspired a whole generation of people as 487 00:18:45,029 --> 00:18:42,559 was pointed out my generation 488 00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:45,039 many of us are scientists and engineers 489 00:18:49,669 --> 00:18:47,120 a good part because of 490 00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:49,679 nasa i've often said nothing inspires 491 00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:51,679 young children like 492 00:18:55,350 --> 00:18:53,600 space and dinosaurs and we're very short 493 00:18:57,510 --> 00:18:55,360 on dinosaurs so 494 00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:57,520 it's important we do this well charlie 495 00:19:01,430 --> 00:18:59,039 over and out 496 00:19:02,470 --> 00:19:01,440 norm thanks so very much and we'll end 497 00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:02,480 up with 498 00:19:08,470 --> 00:19:05,280 with miles o'brien summarizing his panel 499 00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:08,480 that talked about iss utilization 500 00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:10,080 thank you very much charlie iss 501 00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:12,080 utilization is what we talked about and 502 00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:14,080 uh so as not to bury the lead i walked 503 00:19:17,830 --> 00:19:16,320 away very inspired and excited about the 504 00:19:19,510 --> 00:19:17,840 prospects for the international space 505 00:19:20,789 --> 00:19:19,520 station and just the thought 506 00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:20,799 the thought that it could have been 507 00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:23,440 deorbited at the end of 2015 508 00:19:27,669 --> 00:19:25,360 that would truly have been a crime 509 00:19:29,510 --> 00:19:27,679 and to think about what we 510 00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:29,520 have done already there 511 00:19:33,510 --> 00:19:31,360 but really more importantly we've just 512 00:19:34,789 --> 00:19:33,520 just begun we have just begun to scratch 513 00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:34,799 the surface 514 00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:36,480 we start off with mike foale who's been 515 00:19:39,990 --> 00:19:38,480 to the space station as a commander uh 516 00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:40,000 in the uh 517 00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:42,720 wake of colombia uh who had some time on 518 00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:45,600 mir as well four-time uh space flight uh 519 00:19:49,990 --> 00:19:48,240 flyer and he talked about a couple 520 00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:50,000 things first of all he stressed the 521 00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:51,600 point that it's important to increase 522 00:19:55,990 --> 00:19:53,679 the operational tempo to the station 523 00:19:57,669 --> 00:19:56,000 increase the number of flights 524 00:19:59,510 --> 00:19:57,679 the more people on the station as he put 525 00:20:01,510 --> 00:19:59,520 it as i read my tweets here i can do 526 00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:01,520 this in 140 characters if you want so 527 00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:04,000 make it real short 528 00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:05,440 he said 529 00:20:09,029 --> 00:20:07,360 when he was up there with one other crew 530 00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:09,039 member after six months that was kind of 531 00:20:13,430 --> 00:20:11,440 hard not mentioning any names of course 532 00:20:14,710 --> 00:20:13,440 but 533 00:20:16,149 --> 00:20:14,720 he said 534 00:20:18,149 --> 00:20:16,159 we need to have more frequent traffic 535 00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:18,159 there he also talked about the parallel 536 00:20:21,830 --> 00:20:20,000 path to the station and how important 537 00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:21,840 that was post colombia and how as we 538 00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:23,600 march toward a commercial world we need 539 00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:25,360 to think about other ways to get there 540 00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:27,919 right now we are soon facing a period of 541 00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:29,840 time when once again we'll be a 100 542 00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:32,720 dependent on the russians and that is um 543 00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:34,640 that's all it's always good to have a 544 00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:36,559 backup system of some kind to get to and 545 00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:39,840 from that station um so uh he was 546 00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:41,919 especially a little concerned about that 547 00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:44,640 uh he said that commercial crew access 548 00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:46,640 has to happen as a result uh the sooner 549 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:49,679 the better and we will fail ultimately 550 00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:51,760 if at the end of this process of 551 00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:54,400 incubating a commercial space entity we 552 00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:56,400 have only one provider of transport to 553 00:21:00,390 --> 00:20:57,440 space 554 00:21:02,070 --> 00:21:00,400 um he uh talked about how 555 00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:02,080 with the station at the point now where 556 00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:03,760 it has a six-member crew 557 00:21:07,029 --> 00:21:06,000 much more time to utilize it certainly 558 00:21:09,430 --> 00:21:07,039 when there were just two of them on 559 00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:09,440 there he said he spent if 25 of his time 560 00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:11,200 on science obviously they were involved 561 00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:13,520 in in station keeping as much as 562 00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:15,520 anything else he brought out a point 563 00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:17,120 which i hadn't thought much about and we 564 00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:19,760 we might take it for granted the amazing 565 00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:21,280 construction project that is the 566 00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:23,120 international space station we talk 567 00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:24,559 about a lot of the science that goes on 568 00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:26,720 inside but the the amount of robotics 569 00:21:29,669 --> 00:21:28,159 technology that we have pushed with the 570 00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:29,679 canadian arm 571 00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:32,320 dexter the japanese arm is tremendous 572 00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:34,240 just just the process of building the 573 00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:36,640 station has has created great uh 574 00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:39,840 technology improvements um and then he 575 00:21:42,549 --> 00:21:41,200 summed it up with something that i had 576 00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:42,559 personally agree with that the really 577 00:21:45,990 --> 00:21:44,159 the greatest accomplishment of this of 578 00:21:47,669 --> 00:21:46,000 the space station well who knows maybe 579 00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:47,679 they'll cure cancer in a few years but 580 00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:50,400 for now the greatest uh uh 581 00:21:53,909 --> 00:21:51,840 uh contribution to this station is the 582 00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:53,919 fact that you have you know 16 nations 583 00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:56,960 working together this is truly if i 584 00:22:01,510 --> 00:21:59,280 cannot think of anything in in history 585 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:01,520 that that is of that level of 586 00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:04,000 collaboration between other nations so 587 00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:06,080 uh as we look for ways to uh make the 588 00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:08,400 world a better place frankly uh it might 589 00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:11,440 be off the world uh and we went from 590 00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:14,080 there to tom pickens who's the ceo of 591 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:15,200 space hab 592 00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:17,760 uh and uh was space have now astrotech 593 00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:19,360 and astrogenetics 594 00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:22,240 and uh he's he's 595 00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:23,600 right now in the business and has been 596 00:22:27,430 --> 00:22:25,360 in the business of 597 00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:27,440 uh putting uh experiments and doing 598 00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:29,600 pharmacy pharmacological research on the 599 00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:33,120 station uh has focused on salmonella 600 00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:35,440 which uh to put it in and he gave 601 00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:36,880 probably the best primer on all this 602 00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:38,960 that i've ever heard frankly and helped 603 00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:40,720 me understand why space is such an 604 00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:43,280 important thing uh in essence what 605 00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:45,760 happens uh to things like salmonella is 606 00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:47,919 for reasons we don't know as he's put 607 00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:50,080 it's just a phenomenon uh things get 608 00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:52,720 more virulent in in orbit the the 609 00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:54,960 virulence goes to 11 to use a spinal tap 610 00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:58,320 term and uh and and that makes it easier 611 00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:01,200 makes it easier to uh find vaccines you 612 00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:03,280 can find that virulence marker much more 613 00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:04,880 quickly and they have as a result 614 00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:06,880 they're in fda approval 615 00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:08,720 for a vaccine for salmonella which is 616 00:23:11,669 --> 00:23:10,240 not a huge problem in the developed 617 00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:11,679 world but is an actual killer in the 618 00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:14,400 third world uh interesting point he said 619 00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:15,919 if you think going to space is hard try 620 00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:18,080 getting fda approval for a drug 621 00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:19,200 um 622 00:23:23,190 --> 00:23:21,039 he now they moved into something a 623 00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:23,200 little more um 624 00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:24,960 well potentially you know i was thinking 625 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:26,559 of a drama strain the whole time but you 626 00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:28,080 see they're talking about flying you 627 00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:31,520 know they have flown the uh staff um 628 00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:34,080 uh is it a virus is staff a virus or a 629 00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:34,880 uh 630 00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:37,840 what's that mrsa which is a virus or a 631 00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:38,720 uh 632 00:23:43,669 --> 00:23:40,640 where's the science guy when i need him 633 00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:43,679 it's a bacteria thank you 634 00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:49,110 once again showing my history major 635 00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:51,279 roots okay so anyway 636 00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:53,039 the staph virus is up there in the 637 00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:54,480 station but don't worry it's well 638 00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:56,159 contained and it's not going to get out 639 00:23:58,390 --> 00:23:57,279 and they've got it in this thing and 640 00:24:00,310 --> 00:23:58,400 there and 641 00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:00,320 the the process of trying to discover 642 00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:03,520 ways to attack it uh is is laborious 643 00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:05,440 lengthy and what's important for people 644 00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:07,039 like him who are in this business is to 645 00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:10,640 have predictable uh consistent access to 646 00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:12,960 space and he uh was very complimentary 647 00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:15,279 toward nasa and doing business with them 648 00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:17,279 uh really sees not a lot of problems i 649 00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:18,799 did ask him however if there needs to be 650 00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:22,480 sort of a another entity of some kind to 651 00:24:25,750 --> 00:24:23,360 um 652 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:25,760 do business to be to particularly on the 653 00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:28,640 basic research side uh to 654 00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:30,640 get science to and from the station some 655 00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:32,080 sort of non-profit is what i threw out 656 00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:34,000 he said you know the nih 657 00:24:38,230 --> 00:24:35,919 that's what they do why not make them 658 00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:38,240 funnel science to the station so that 659 00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:41,360 might be something to consider um 660 00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:45,039 uh he uh talked about uh and you know 661 00:24:49,510 --> 00:24:46,720 imagine if they could uh come up with a 662 00:24:51,269 --> 00:24:49,520 uh a vaccine that would uh solve the 663 00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:51,279 staph infections which is a huge problem 664 00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:53,919 uh in hospitals all across the world 665 00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:56,559 brett alexander who is uh head of the uh 666 00:25:00,870 --> 00:24:59,120 commercial space flight federation uh he 667 00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:00,880 uh talked a lot about the uh the 668 00:25:05,830 --> 00:25:02,799 benefits of opening up space to the 669 00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:05,840 commercial uh sector and and how those 670 00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:07,840 partnerships can work and he talked 671 00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:09,200 about um 672 00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:11,679 you know he made the analogy to um the 673 00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:14,720 world of computers and how uh nasa of 674 00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:15,679 course 675 00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:17,840 pushed that world along uh in another 676 00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:19,360 generation and off it went to the 677 00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:21,200 private sector and look what i have in 678 00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:22,880 my hand you know it's more than they had 679 00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:24,799 in that huge room to get 680 00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:27,679 apollo 11 to the moon and uh 681 00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:28,400 so 682 00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:30,320 he the question that he posed is if the 683 00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:31,760 private sector were to get involved in 684 00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:33,840 space where things haven't changed as as 685 00:25:38,470 --> 00:25:36,080 much or as rapidly uh maybe maybe the 686 00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:38,480 silicon valley model is is what will 687 00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:40,480 change things significantly he also 688 00:25:46,149 --> 00:25:43,440 talked about uh the analog to aviation 689 00:25:48,230 --> 00:25:46,159 uh and how uh the u.s of course 690 00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:48,240 wright brothers uh was in the early lead 691 00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:51,200 in aviation but lost that in about 15 692 00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:52,799 years subsequent to the wright brothers 693 00:25:57,590 --> 00:25:54,960 flying to the europeans and then the 694 00:25:59,190 --> 00:25:57,600 naca essentially came in and and the 695 00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,200 airmail act and a lot of things were 696 00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:01,200 there to stimulate that and and of 697 00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,640 course there there was a military 698 00:26:06,310 --> 00:26:04,400 purpose there as well we can't you know 699 00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:06,320 ignore that but the fact is 700 00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:07,520 there was an appropriate place for the 701 00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:09,120 government to come in and stimulate some 702 00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:11,039 growth and that that uh obviously 703 00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:13,200 changed forever the the face of 704 00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:16,640 of age aviation um he summing up he said 705 00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:18,000 there's nothing unique about getting to 706 00:26:21,909 --> 00:26:20,400 space that should be a government 707 00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:21,919 enterprise forever i guess that's a 708 00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:23,279 theme that probably came up in all of 709 00:26:26,310 --> 00:26:24,960 these and then somebody asked a question 710 00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:26,320 i thought it was a great question and i 711 00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:27,520 didn't plant this but they said you know 712 00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:28,960 why don't we know more about the space 713 00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:30,640 station why why isn't the space station 714 00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:32,159 more alive for people why isn't it in 715 00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:33,279 classrooms why don't we know who's up 716 00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:34,960 there why aren't they communicating well 717 00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:36,720 and tom pickens in essence said well we 718 00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:39,279 need to send miles so 719 00:26:42,789 --> 00:26:40,480 thank you tom 720 00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:42,799 i'm kind of paraphrasing but he said 721 00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:44,400 maybe maybe in the commercial world 722 00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:46,000 there'll be room for the likes of me 723 00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:47,840 people who can communicate as well as do 724 00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:49,279 the science not saying you scientists 725 00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:50,720 aren't good commuters and communicators 726 00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:53,840 in some cases science guy but uh in any 727 00:26:57,029 --> 00:26:55,600 case that was it it was it was a great 728 00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:57,039 discussion we could have gone on another 729 00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:59,120 hour easily i found it fascinating great 730 00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:00,880 thank you i want to thank all four of 731 00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,080 the the breakout leaders however 732 00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:06,240 last question of the day and and there 733 00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:07,760 is one more question and i'd like for 734 00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:09,600 them to just very briefly 735 00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:11,679 uh share with you what their biggest 736 00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:12,880 surprise 737 00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:15,279 whether it was pleasant or otherwise 738 00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:17,279 their biggest surprise on the day so 739 00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:19,679 miles and and the day means from the 740 00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:21,279 very beginning 741 00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:23,279 you know when you got here 742 00:27:26,950 --> 00:27:25,440 until right now when i just asked this 743 00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:26,960 question and i'll start with you well 744 00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:29,600 this would be it the question no i um 745 00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:35,190 the um actually i i was a little 746 00:27:38,549 --> 00:27:36,799 surprised and i didn't i should have 747 00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:38,559 mentioned this i i did ask why not make 748 00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:40,240 the chinese partners in the space 749 00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:42,159 station and i got uh cricket as a 750 00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:43,919 response so 751 00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:47,279 cricket cricket that was it 752 00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:48,960 norm 753 00:27:56,789 --> 00:27:50,720 my biggest surprise was the quality of 754 00:28:02,070 --> 00:27:59,350 and i i have to ask a follow-up question 755 00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:02,080 is it good or bad compared to your 756 00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:03,760 normal lunch 757 00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:05,840 because i don't eat lunch at least so 758 00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:07,440 that would be good 759 00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:09,360 at least this water 760 00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:10,960 at least the water wasn't from space 761 00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:12,640 station all right 762 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,630 you think 763 00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:20,389 well i'm tempted to say my biggest 764 00:28:27,269 --> 00:28:22,559 surprise is i haven't yet been blamed 765 00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:30,149 but i think i will go with seriously how 766 00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:31,760 emotional it was to see the president 767 00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:34,559 united states standing in front of as i 768 00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:36,960 say they had me at the nasa flag but 769 00:28:43,350 --> 00:28:40,399 then to have in addition uh the 770 00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:43,360 orion capsule there that we know will 771 00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:45,520 now be going not only to the space 772 00:28:50,389 --> 00:28:48,240 station but beyond to an asteroid for 773 00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:50,399 the first time humanity's ever done that 774 00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:54,640 uh by 2025 in our nasa and commercial 775 00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:56,799 and state-owned facility there it was 776 00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:59,039 pretty emotional and i was surprised by 777 00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:00,480 that but 778 00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:02,480 norm you get to come back because i okay 779 00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:04,640 thank you and i'll go to john 780 00:29:08,549 --> 00:29:07,120 my biggest surprise uh was that there 781 00:29:10,549 --> 00:29:08,559 was really no discussion of the 782 00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:10,559 international aspects of this whole 783 00:29:15,029 --> 00:29:12,720 effort until you just mentioned it now i 784 00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:15,039 didn't talk about it but 785 00:29:19,669 --> 00:29:17,760 that is one place if we have a 786 00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:19,679 money challenge and a 787 00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,080 science challenge and so on that we 788 00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:24,320 could get a lot of help 789 00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:28,080 and john i guess my biggest surprise was 790 00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:31,440 the uh level of enthusiasm uh and 791 00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:33,120 excitement with which the president's 792 00:29:37,669 --> 00:29:35,120 remarks were received 793 00:29:39,830 --> 00:29:37,679 given the um 794 00:29:43,269 --> 00:29:39,840 the the pummeling we have sometimes been 795 00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:43,279 taking uh in some of the media over this 796 00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:45,200 over this plan 797 00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:46,000 uh 798 00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:51,200 really learned very much about it i was 799 00:29:54,870 --> 00:29:53,120 i was worried about the sort of 800 00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:54,880 reception the president would receive 801 00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:57,279 here and i i thought it was a a an 802 00:30:01,510 --> 00:30:00,320 astonishingly warm and receptive uh 803 00:30:02,470 --> 00:30:01,520 audience 804 00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:02,480 and 805 00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:04,080 i thought the president did a great job 806 00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:05,760 that was not a surprise 807 00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:08,720 but the uh but the but the warmth and 808 00:30:12,149 --> 00:30:10,720 receptiveness was 809 00:30:14,630 --> 00:30:12,159 thanks very much thanks to all of you 810 00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:14,640 and uh let me a couple of closing 811 00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:17,039 comments here from me um i guess let me 812 00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:19,440 apologize first of all to all of you who 813 00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,520 came because i know it wasn't easy to 814 00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:23,600 get here we didn't make it very easy uh 815 00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:25,919 and to to many of you who are corporate 816 00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:28,880 ceos or or acad you know you you're 817 00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,559 presidents of universities or whatever 818 00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:32,640 else it is i can promise the next time 819 00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:34,960 we won't we won't be quite as 820 00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:37,760 the way we were this time so so i i 821 00:30:41,909 --> 00:30:40,000 apologize for for handling it the way we 822 00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:41,919 did but we'll do better 823 00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:44,000 and hopefully we will do this again uh 824 00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:46,320 hopefully we will find a way to move 825 00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:48,080 this around the country for some of you 826 00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:50,399 who were around before you know we we 827 00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:52,480 tried this once and it was invaluable 828 00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:54,480 except we didn't do anything with it 829 00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:57,360 and what i would like to see us do is do 830 00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:00,320 this in other venues but do something 831 00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:02,720 with it use it to make a difference 832 00:31:08,310 --> 00:31:05,679 um you know i as i travel from group to 833 00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:08,320 group there were several things that 834 00:31:13,269 --> 00:31:10,240 struck me again 835 00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:13,279 uh and it was one this is a human 836 00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:14,799 robotic effort 837 00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:17,840 uh there is no there is no competition 838 00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:20,399 between humans and robots and and i was 839 00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:22,240 very pleasantly surprised to hear 840 00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:25,519 everybody make that observation uh all 841 00:31:28,149 --> 00:31:26,480 explore 842 00:31:29,909 --> 00:31:28,159 i forgot who it was but somebody said 843 00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:29,919 all that's right 844 00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:32,559 all exploration is human 845 00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:34,559 uh you know it's just sometimes we use a 846 00:31:38,870 --> 00:31:36,799 surrogate in the form of a robot because 847 00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:38,880 we either can't get there or it's too 848 00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:41,200 hostile or we just don't know and so 849 00:31:44,830 --> 00:31:42,880 that's what we're going to be about the 850 00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:44,840 other thing i will address is 851 00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:47,919 risk we do risky stuff 852 00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:50,559 and and that's not just 853 00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:52,640 when i say risky stuff that's not just 854 00:31:57,269 --> 00:31:54,399 life and death risk 855 00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:57,279 we are going to do economically risky 856 00:32:01,509 --> 00:31:58,399 stuff 857 00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:01,519 and and i appeal to you to um 858 00:32:05,909 --> 00:32:04,000 to help us as we do that you know what i 859 00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:05,919 want to do is i want to design i want to 860 00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:06,799 test 861 00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:08,960 i want to go fly and i want to do that 862 00:32:12,389 --> 00:32:11,200 on a routine basis and the only way you 863 00:32:14,230 --> 00:32:12,399 can do that 864 00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:14,240 and do it at the pace ed as you 865 00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:17,600 mentioned is accept risks sometimes so 866 00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:19,840 when we fly a human it's going to be a 867 00:32:25,669 --> 00:32:23,919 very very very very measured risks but 868 00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:25,679 there are some times that we can do 869 00:32:30,389 --> 00:32:28,640 smaller things to set humans up where we 870 00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:30,399 can you know think about it overnight 871 00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:32,159 and then go do it and you know what 872 00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:34,480 we're going to fail now and then 873 00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:36,880 and that too is okay 874 00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:39,840 because if we fail it means we really 875 00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:42,559 tried hard and we stretched what we 876 00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:44,480 thought our capabilities were so that's 877 00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:46,159 very important for all of us to take 878 00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:48,559 from this venue uh and share it with 879 00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:50,159 people who weren't here 880 00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:52,080 uh and then the the third thing i'll 881 00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:54,240 tell you before i before i do my final 882 00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:57,279 wrap-up is uh talk to us 883 00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:59,039 you know i'm accessible 884 00:33:02,549 --> 00:33:00,240 tina 885 00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:02,559 hates it 886 00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:04,880 because she tries to be the guardian 887 00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:06,880 but you know you can reach us by email 888 00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:09,600 you can reach us by phone 889 00:33:15,509 --> 00:33:12,399 you can walk in sometimes and and beat 890 00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:15,519 tina up and uh and talk to me in person 891 00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:16,240 but 892 00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:17,840 we can only help 893 00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:20,320 if we know what you think is wrong so 894 00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:21,919 talk to us 895 00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:24,799 you know don't say nasa didn't do this 896 00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:27,840 uh if you didn't talk to us so i ask you 897 00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:32,230 mike foale said it very well what we're 898 00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:33,760 trying to and mike has said this on a 899 00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:36,559 number of occasions what we all want all 900 00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:38,559 of us who have been to space or who want 901 00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:40,000 to go to space 902 00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:42,640 we want reliable redundant access to 903 00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:43,600 space 904 00:33:47,269 --> 00:33:45,440 and the only way you can do that is if 905 00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:47,279 you open up the aperture 906 00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:49,039 and that means government 907 00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:50,320 commercial 908 00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,960 international uh you name it we don't 909 00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:54,320 there there are probably other ways to 910 00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:55,600 get there that we haven't even thought 911 00:34:00,630 --> 00:33:58,799 about and so i ask you to think about 912 00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:00,640 ways that we can provide reliable 913 00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:03,039 redundant access to space i want to 914 00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:05,760 thank all of the organizers from folk in 915 00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:08,960 ostp who did an incredible job 916 00:34:12,629 --> 00:34:10,639 folk around the president and the 917 00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:12,639 executive officer of the president 918 00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:14,639 folk at nasa headquarters but most 919 00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:16,079 importantly 920 00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:18,159 the men and women here at at the kennedy 921 00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:21,839 space center who have been incredible 922 00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:30,149 and then um 923 00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:32,399 and the the final thanks goes to all of 924 00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:34,560 you because as i said i mentioned it 925 00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:36,399 about the students but all of you have 926 00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:37,919 day jobs 927 00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:39,919 and and all of you have very important 928 00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:42,320 things going on senator nelson has you 929 00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:44,800 know missed probably missed a vote today 930 00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:47,280 and he's going to catch a lot of grief 931 00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:50,320 but every single one of you decided that 932 00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:52,800 this was important and you came and for 933 00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:55,599 that we are incredibly thankful and then 934 00:35:02,950 --> 00:34:59,040 i will close by uh sharing uh you know i 935 00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:02,960 am uh i consider myself to be a dreamer 936 00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:06,400 our president uses a term sometime 937 00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:08,640 and it's called the incredible urgency 938 00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:11,040 of now 939 00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:17,680 if we don't take it seriously and we're 940 00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:19,920 not we don't understand that it is 941 00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:21,599 incredibly urgent 942 00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:24,000 for us to do the things that are before 943 00:35:26,950 --> 00:35:25,599 us to accept the challenges that are 944 00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:26,960 before us the congress the 945 00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:30,000 administration industry academia uh we 946 00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:31,680 have all got to come together and make 947 00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:33,920 this happen because the world let me 948 00:35:39,510 --> 00:35:36,400 tell you they are looking for us to lead 949 00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:39,520 they want us to lead um and they do not 950 00:35:43,829 --> 00:35:41,520 expect us to shrink from that leadership 951 00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:43,839 but we all have to develop what what the 952 00:35:48,390 --> 00:35:45,760 president calls the incredible urgency 953 00:35:50,790 --> 00:35:48,400 or the fierce urgency of now so with 954 00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,800 that i wish you all a do god bless all